The latest polls, The Greens and terrible numbers for both leaders.

Newspoll released last night had a 2PP vote of 51-49 to the ALP. there's nothing strange about that, yesterday's Essential Research poll also had a 2PP of 51-49. What was a bit strange in the Newspoll was the primary figures. ALP 35% (-2), LIB/NAT 41% (-2) and Greens on 16% (+4)

What do you think? Do you think this poll is an outlier? Do you think will get anyhwere near 16% at the next election?

Another interesting this that both polls has shown collapse is the fall in approval and rise in disapproval of both leaders. Kevin Rudd is in negative net approval territory with Essential for the first time (-6) which is a -10% change from last time. Abbott is at -15 which is also -10%. With Newspoll, the numbers are also pretty bad with Rudd -18 (-6) and Abbott -12 (-9)

EDITL Essential's Primary numbers are 39%, 41% and 9%

Essential Report: 56-44 and people's opinions on party attributes.

Today's Essential Report sees a 2% 2PP gain by the ALP. Primary votes are Labor 45%, Coalition 38% Greens 9% Family First 2% and Others 6%.

On the question of which PPL scheme they preferred 40% said the Government's, 24% the Opposition's while 27% said neither and 10% were undecided.

Party Attributes (changes from July 2009)
ALP
Moderate - 63% (-2%)
Will promise to do anything to win votes - 63% (+6%)
Looks after the interest of working families - 57% (-4%)
Professional in it's approach - 55% (-4%)
Understands the problems facing Australia - 54% (-8%)
Has a good team of leaders - 52% (-8%)
Out of touch with ordinary people - 48% (+4%)
Too Dominated by it's leader - 45% (+6%)
Divided - 36% (+6%)
Keeps it's promises - 33% (-11%)
Extreme - 26% (+1%)

LIB 
Moderate - 50% (no change)
Will promise to do anything to win votes - 72% (+5%)
Looks after the interest of working families - 35% (+4%)
Professional in it's approach - 47% (+6%)
Understands the problems facing Australia - 43% (-1%)
Has a good team of leaders - 31% (+2%)
Out of touch with ordinary people - 58% (-2%)
Too Dominated by it's leader - 44% (+10%)
Divided - 66% (-8%)
Keeps it's promises - 23% (-5%)
Extreme - 38% (+2%)

Comparison
(Example - 'Moderate - ALP 13%' means 13% more people believe the ALP is moderate than the Libs)
Moderate - ALP 13%
Will promise to do anything to win votes - LIB 9%
Looks after the interest of working families - ALP 22%
Professional in it's approach - ALP 8%
Understands the problems facing Australia - ALP 11%
Has a good team of leaders - ALP 21%
Out of touch with ordinary people - LIB 10%
Too Dominated by it's leader - ALP 1%
Divided - LIB 30%
Keeps it's promises - ALP 10%
Extreme - LIB 12%

 There's also a few questions in there about media.

Essential Research - ALP leads 55%-45%

The latest Essential Report poll has been released. Along with the usual voting intention question there are also approval ratings for Tanner and Barnaby and a question asking who would make a better PM out of Rudd and Gillard plus a few more.

Primaries
ALP - 44%
Coalition - 38%
Greens - 10%
Others - 6%
Family First - 2%


2PP
ALP - 55%
Coalition - 45%

Lindsay Tanner Approval Rating
Approve - 31%
Disapprove - 24%
Net Satisfaction - +7%
Don't Know - 45%
Demographics - ALP voters - 56% approve. Coaliton voters - 49% disapprove. Greens voters - 43% approve. Males 46% approve. Females - 49% "Don't know"

Barnaby Joyce Approval Rating
Approve - 25%
Disapprove - 36%
Net satisfaction  - -11%
Don't Know - 39%
Demographics - ALP voters - 53% dissaprove. Coalition voters - 47% approve. Greens voters - 56% disapprove. A quite high 23% of Coalition voters disapprove. Males - 43% disapprove. Females 47% don't know.

Better PM

Turnbull calls Abbott a flip-flopper and says he's full of "Bulls*it"

Malcolm Turn has just posted on his blog about the Coalition's objection to the ETS. In it he says Abbott has changed his position plenty of times and that lowering emissions without cost is "bullshit" and that Abbott knows this. Looks like the disunity in the party is just starting, not coimng to an end as they would like us to believe.

While a shadow minister, Tony Abbott, was never afraid of speaking bluntly in a manner that was at odds with Coalition policy.

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